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Post by claypot on Apr 24, 2018 6:42:01 GMT -5
At lease he doesn't look like the Topper Grace version.
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Post by travis on Apr 24, 2018 9:11:54 GMT -5
Eddie/Venom feels/looks right. Everything else about that trailer feels both overly padded and bland.
Plus, you keep waiting for Spider-man to show up.
Don't hate it, but won't be seeing it in the theater.
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Post by D. Golightly on Apr 24, 2018 10:28:20 GMT -5
Everything about this just feels expected. I was hoping for more of a body horror movie, but instead this just leans into a typical origin story. So much potential to really do something unique with this kind of a character. I'll pass.
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Post by Daniel Ingram on Apr 25, 2018 20:00:29 GMT -5
I was hoping for the Flash Thompson mold. A soldier trying to control both himself and a dangerous weapon.
IMO, Eddie suffers without Peter and really, even struggles as a character when he's there
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Post by travis on Apr 25, 2018 21:26:11 GMT -5
And how is he an anti-hero if the other guy is obviously as bad or worse as Venom supposedly is...?
Not seeing anything 'anti-' about that.
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Post by Stephen Crosby on Apr 26, 2018 6:21:44 GMT -5
And how is he an anti-hero if the other guy is obviously as bad or worse as Venom supposedly is...? Not seeing anything 'anti-' about that. What's so bad about Eddie Brock in this? From what I saw in the trailer, he's a relatively typical reporter searching for the truth.
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Post by travis on Apr 26, 2018 14:54:21 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what I saw too, but they are promoting him as an anti-hero...?
and I could do without the three foot long tongue.
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Post by claypot on Apr 26, 2018 17:56:44 GMT -5
I thin this is planed as a horror film with it coming in October. If Tom Hardy can do a great Bane, let's hope his version of Venom can save the character's reputation after Spider-Man 3.
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Post by bkole on Apr 27, 2018 2:47:34 GMT -5
Struggling to get on board with this, really. I've watched the trailer, and this is the first time in a long time a comic film hasn't grabbed me at all (And I watched Valerian.)
There's something off about this - In that, it's hard to be an anti-hero when there are no heroic elements for juxtaposition against. For most of the movie goers if they're not familiar with Venom, this will be "Badass Grim-Dark Hero" not Anti-Hero. It doesn't really cross over into horror, but although Venom is a visually scary character, this isn't shot as a horror. This looks like it's a straight-up superhero film to me - The whole cinematography element is quite bright, clear, and dramatic. There isn't anything that pushes it, in my mind, into horror.
It just looks distinctly average - considering we've been spoilt for the best part of a decade with multiple offerings of very good superhero films (Even Thor II...) this has nothing that stands out as being conceptually unique or interesting, its just a very violent E.T.
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Post by travis on Apr 27, 2018 10:48:18 GMT -5
I've pretty much passed on any comic movie not put out by marvel studios. Them, I trust, everybody else can wait till netflix gets it.
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Post by Daniel Ingram on May 2, 2018 19:55:51 GMT -5
I think the biggest problem is that there's no interesting motivation at play with Eddie.
Eddie's character is pretty comic book, if ya think about it. He's mad at Spidey for exposing his premature story, and wearing an alien suit that Spidey once wore, taken from an alien world.
Remove that, and what's his character? Not much, IMO.
I think the Flash Thompson Venom easily had the most potential of Venom incarnations. I was surprised at the quality of the comic, of a soldier fighting to redeem himself, while reveling in the power/ability granted to him by the suit, while at the same time trying to reign it in.
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Post by travis on May 2, 2018 22:42:56 GMT -5
I think the biggest problem is that there's no interesting motivation at play with Eddie. Eddie's character is pretty comic book, if ya think about it. He's mad at Spidey for exposing his premature story, and wearing an alien suit that Spidey once wore, taken from an alien world. Remove that, and what's his character? Not much, IMO. I think the Flash Thompson Venom easily had the most potential of Venom incarnations. I was surprised at the quality of the comic, of a soldier fighting to redeem himself, while reveling in the power/ability granted to him by the suit, while at the same time trying to reign it in. Except that you'd have to retool that as well, because you can't use the name, because there's a brown teenager named Flash Thompson currently running around, annoying Peter Parker. You can salvage his motivation if you remove all the Spider-man, but it's just a variation on what's happening now. Fox complicating matters by trying to create a short cut. Next DC will make a Bizarro movie without any reference to Superman.
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Post by Daniel Ingram on May 3, 2018 5:49:11 GMT -5
I think the biggest problem is that there's no interesting motivation at play with Eddie. Eddie's character is pretty comic book, if ya think about it. He's mad at Spidey for exposing his premature story, and wearing an alien suit that Spidey once wore, taken from an alien world. Remove that, and what's his character? Not much, IMO. I think the Flash Thompson Venom easily had the most potential of Venom incarnations. I was surprised at the quality of the comic, of a soldier fighting to redeem himself, while reveling in the power/ability granted to him by the suit, while at the same time trying to reign it in. Except that you'd have to retool that as well, because you can't use the name, because there's a brown teenager named Flash Thompson currently running around, annoying Peter Parker. You can salvage his motivation if you remove all the Spider-man, but it's just a variation on what's happening now. Fox complicating matters by trying to create a short cut. Next DC will make a Bizarro movie without any reference to Superman. Eh, I don't think changing his name would be that much of a retool. Hell, even keeping the name wouldn't be the oddest canon flug in the MU
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Post by claypot on May 3, 2018 8:19:01 GMT -5
They said Spidey might be in the movie. Also anyone remember the Halle Berry Catwoman movie where they don't mention anything about Batman related, accept the pic of Catwoman from Batman Returns as an Easter egg. The carp version's origin ripped off the origin of Returns of Selena coming back from death by cats.
If Spider-Man's next film gets Black Cat, I hope they don't do her origin by giving her cat DNA or using cat god crap.
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Post by Stephen Crosby on May 3, 2018 20:18:27 GMT -5
Looking at the trailer again, I noticed some things.
The woman in the cell could be Shriek, a villain who at one point was the Bonnie to Carnage's Clyde.
The multiple symbiotes and the Life Foundation has me thinking this film will adapt a bit from Lethal Protector, which was the first Venom mini-series. Be interesting if a bunch of armored guys show up calling themselves The Jury and Brock comes across an underground homeless community.
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