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Post by Cory W. on May 9, 2006 2:17:23 GMT -5
Your comments are just sooo constructive lately, Nani. Hey Gary, what was this Chamber revelation you speak of? From Apocalypse vs. Dracula? I never bothered to pick it up.
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Post by Gary Jones on May 9, 2006 10:36:49 GMT -5
She's a garden tool?
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Post by Gary Jones on May 9, 2006 10:49:18 GMT -5
Your comments are just sooo constructive lately, Nani. Hey Gary, what was this Chamber revelation you speak of? From Apocalypse vs. Dracula? I never bothered to pick it up. SPOILERS Apocalypse's bloodline has lived on throughout the centuries as part of Clan Akkaba. One of the lesser members was a man called Jack Starsmore, a police detective who had the power to breath flame. It's never stated directly but the insinuation that Chamber is a decendant of Apocalypse is there. Especially with Jack Starsmore's last line of the book "the New World Huh? pfft...fat chance a Starsmore'll end up in that bloody wasteland." Of course one of the other surviving members of the clan in the mini was a young man with purple hair and green eyes, whose teleport signature carried a "blink" at the end of the mini Ozymandias gave him a prostitute, a young lady called Ms. Ferguson.
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Post by Adnan Khan on May 9, 2006 11:28:52 GMT -5
agh im so stupid...i can't believe i didn't catch the blink reference...i knew i was missing something but couldn't figure it out...
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Post by Cory W. on May 9, 2006 11:32:39 GMT -5
That's all actually pretty interesting... Maybe I'll look into the mini. Was it any good? My only question is why would they establish connections like that unless they planned on later exploring them. For some reason, though, I think maybe all those plots did was muddy up the already pretty muddy X-Men history...
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Post by Gary Jones on May 9, 2006 12:02:36 GMT -5
I think the Apocalypse vs Dracula mini was a fun read so I'd say yes to picking it up, all the connection it has to current storylines, is that it sets up the healing and regenerative properties of Apocalypse's blood, so they could just ignore it if they liked.
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Post by Stephen Crosby on May 9, 2006 20:30:57 GMT -5
If this link between Chamber and Apocalypse is meant to help establish Chamber recovering from the Decimation, terrific. Still, it's not M2K canon and frankly there's been a bit much of Apocalypse in M2K imo. Full agreement about Chamber joining the X-Men though. Without Xavier they need another crippled telepath. Hmmm, Xavier...another character I could easily resurrect just for the hell of it...
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Post by Adnan Khan on May 10, 2006 17:22:20 GMT -5
someone needs to shoot crosby...
and please, for the love of god...no one bring back poccy...let him stay dead.
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Post by Cory W. on May 10, 2006 17:38:26 GMT -5
Apocalypse is on the list of perma-dead characters at M2K.
But then again... I did have this idea...
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Post by Gary Jones on May 10, 2006 17:55:02 GMT -5
I don't see how anyone can be permanently dead in a world where it is relatively easy to clone someone and you can record the content of someones brain onto a computer disk.
Also given that it is possible to travel to heavenly and demonic realms, no-one should be dead for good.
The only thing there should be is a d**n good story behind their return to life, not just a "ooo, we found him in a basement," like Whedon did with Colossus.
Edit: I can't say d.a.m.n?
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Post by Cory W. on May 10, 2006 19:18:45 GMT -5
Well, the perma-dead thing sorta goes back to the whole quality of the site thing. Apocalypse has been milked to death at M2K - and in a good way. He's run his course and all of his loose plots are taken care of, so I say that's that for him. Cable destroyed his entire essence, anyway, so that's pretty much that.
Oh, and the censoring thing on this board is really weird... heh, I *can* turn it off, though, or even twist it around a bit if I want...
Go on. Try typing "G.o.d." without the quotations and periods.
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Post by Gary Jones on May 10, 2006 19:35:12 GMT -5
I can understand wanting to keep quality up but I don't see the point is saying there is a no return from the dead rule when two characters have recently returned from the dead, in Storm and Cyclops.
Surely it would be better to have a "return from the dead if its a d**n good story," policy than keep diluting the "no resurrections," rule bit by bit.
Cable destroyed his essence in the comics too but he came back.
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Post by Cory W. on May 10, 2006 20:01:24 GMT -5
Well, Storm was different in that never had very much attention at M2K at all in the overall scheme of things. Plus, she was always meant to come back in some way or form. While I see where you're coming from, I personally think that Apocalypse in particular should remain dead and gone. Other characters are more or less open to being resurrected, just as long as the story's good and the reasoning makes sense.
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Post by Adnan Khan on May 10, 2006 21:24:26 GMT -5
I agree...I mean, personally in my opinion, if the character's death was a really good story...then why make it less meaningful by bringing that character back?
Like man...Colossus sacrificing himself so thousands could live was a very good death...but then he was a fake or something? I dunno the details cuz i stopped reading X-Men...
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Post by Frank Bigoski on May 12, 2006 16:31:52 GMT -5
Okay, I agree that around here the X-Men are going in a dark direction. But I also think that the X-Men have good enough supporting cast members to choose from to join the team as to not need to bring Kurt in as a member. I say the best line up would be to keep the current Roster and go with either Magma, or the member I personally (and seem to be the only one who did so) voted for, Radius.
No one voted for Corbo cause no one knows anything about him I'm guessing? He was a great character in the Alpha Flight relaunched series that came out during the Heroes Reborn era post-Onslaught in Marvel canon, and Cory and Brad have given him some Rogue like characterization in M2K's X-Men that I like, his lack of a real sense of touch do to his ever present force field? Good stuff Gents.
Oh, and I disagree, Jean's not a ho, she's a nail, cause she gets hammered alot.
here's my attempt to spell G.O.D. with out the periods: god.
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