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Post by fairchild on Sept 9, 2016 17:39:26 GMT -5
I always thought that to achieve human/mutant co-existence that it would be best done outside of their isolated environment...I know they are persecuted though
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Post by Brad Horton on Sept 10, 2016 13:51:13 GMT -5
ICEMAN and the X-MEN. Bobby Drake - thought he was babysitting - but then gets stuck as leader of the X-Men because of some unforeseen mission to Limbo gone wrong. The "normal" X-Men are stuck, leaving Bobby to pick up the pieces with a rag-tag, young, and inexperienced team of mutants. Kind of like that episode of Star Trek TNG where Deanna Troi was the de-facto captain. Hi-jinks and growing the F up ensue while trying to get the old X-Men back. A return of the Operation Zero Tolerance Iceman that was the unlikely beacon of hope.
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Post by claypot on Sept 10, 2016 17:21:36 GMT -5
Horton, where the heck have you been?
You know what we need here? X-Men/Star Trek! Yes folks, it happened twice. There was even a novel one as well.
You know I like to see someone do a one-shot of Spider-Man meeting Miraculous Ladybug. I know it's a cartoon about a female French superhero, but think about that this girl is more like Spidey in America and Cat Noir is like Black Cat.
Speaking of Spidey...What if there was a title about a Spider-Man like character with mutant powers of a spider than the usual radioactive bite from a spider and the whole great power and responsibility trope?
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Post by Stephen Crosby on Sept 10, 2016 19:45:16 GMT -5
What if there was a title about a Spider-Man like character with mutant powers of a spider than the usual radioactive bite from a spider and the whole great power and responsibility trope? I'm pretty sure that's Ricochet, originally one of the Slingers. At least...he had agility and a danger sense like Spider-Man, and it was a plot point that he didn't get powers from the costume like Prodigy, Hornet and Dusk. Plus at one point he was hunted by Nanny and Orphan Maker. At M2K he was a member of the previous New Warriors team. As the only one that somehow emerged pretty much unscathed, I'd say Ricochet's earned his own title. Hey, does anyone remember when Nanny and Orphan Maker were briefly successful? They'd kidnapped a bunch of mutant babies, including Nathan Summers, but then Cyclops and Marvel Girl (not even the entire X-Factor team) rescued the kids. I think they only appeared a couple times since, trying to abduct Storm (they'd de-aged her somehow), a deformed kid who wasn't actually a mutant, and the aforementioned Ricochet. Every time they failed, and I feel like that should be the next big series. Like those Roadrunner cartoons, only it's Nanny and Orphan Maker constantly trying (and failing) to abduct Artie and Leach. No, wait, it's Cable! Nanny recognizes his DNA from her records and they're trying to reset him to the proper age! Then again, whatever happened to all those other babies? Freedom Force convinced X-Factor to turn them over to the government, with the promise they'd be reunited with family. But happy endings are boring, so clearly the government lied. That could be the first arc of Mystique's solo title, tracking down those missing kids she briefly took responsibility for.
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Post by Daniel Ingram on Sept 10, 2016 20:12:05 GMT -5
What if there was a title about a Spider-Man like character with mutant powers of a spider than the usual radioactive bite from a spider and the whole great power and responsibility trope? I'm pretty sure that's Ricochet, originally one of the Slingers. At least...he had agility and a danger sense like Spider-Man, and it was a plot point that he didn't get powers from the costume like Prodigy, Hornet and Dusk. Plus at one point he was hunted by Nanny and Orphan Maker. At M2K he was a member of the previous New Warriors team. As the only one that somehow emerged pretty much unscathed, I'd say Ricochet's earned his own title. Hey, does anyone remember when Nanny and Orphan Maker were briefly successful? They'd kidnapped a bunch of mutant babies, including Nathan Summers, but then Cyclops and Marvel Girl (not even the entire X-Factor team) rescued the kids. I think they only appeared a couple times since, trying to abduct Storm (they'd de-aged her somehow), a deformed kid who wasn't actually a mutant, and the aforementioned Ricochet. Every time they failed, and I feel like that should be the next big series. Like those Roadrunner cartoons, only it's Nanny and Orphan Maker constantly trying (and failing) to abduct Artie and Leach. No, wait, it's Cable! Nanny recognizes his DNA from her records and they're trying to reset him to the proper age! Then again, whatever happened to all those other babies? Freedom Force convinced X-Factor to turn them over to the government, with the promise they'd be reunited with family. But happy endings are boring, so clearly the government lied. That could be the first arc of Mystique's solo title, tracking down those missing kids she briefly took responsibility for. I actually answered that question in an old X-Men Unlimited issue. The kids were caught in a temporal loop. See, the government did take them and do some experiments, exploiting their powers until some could warp time itself. But MUSE found out and warped time to get the kids back home. See, you're not the only one who can handle obscure Marvel canon
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Post by travis on Sept 11, 2016 9:17:17 GMT -5
We've seen all these government projects based on rounding up/dealing with mutants and they all are portrayed as one dimensional bad guys.
Be interesting to see the Sentinel project or some government mutant hunting team where the story is from their POV and they are treated as interesting characters.
Kind of an X-Files or Gotham Central type of series with mutants.
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Post by bkole on Sept 14, 2016 5:22:05 GMT -5
Interesting. I did have this idea of Darwin being a Knight of Wundagore and wandering around with a load of New Men doing hero stuff. Technically, that's X-Men, right?
Right?
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Post by claypot on Sept 14, 2016 5:52:46 GMT -5
If it's linked to X-Men sure.
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Post by jmcdonald2886 on Sept 14, 2016 20:55:27 GMT -5
We've seen all these government projects based on rounding up/dealing with mutants and they all are portrayed as one dimensional bad guys. Be interesting to see the Sentinel project or some government mutant hunting team where the story is from their POV and they are treated as interesting characters. Kind of an X-Files or Gotham Central type of series with mutants. I like this idea. When you say this, I'm envisioning Flashpoint with Sentinels. Not just any Sentinels. We're talking Nimrod-type Sentinels, or the nanotech Sentinels from the X-Men: DoFP Movie, with either ordinary humans controlling them, or deep psychologically-wrought Sentinels. Where no one party is painted as good or evil - you see the heavy psychological motivations that make these "scary mutants" so scary, and these "commandant" Sentinels so trigger-happy, and sometimes you don't see the regular "POV" perspective with your good mutants. These squadrons are only seeing one side of say, Wolverine's actions and prejudge them as "evil", or are misjudging a Brotherhood member's motivations as "good", when the pathos behind the deed is either mutant-centric or batshit homicidal. Hmmm....
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Post by bkole on Sept 15, 2016 7:36:28 GMT -5
Sorry, this is totally unrelated but...I've always wondered this.
Why do Sentinel's have faces? There is literally no requirement for a face at all.
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Post by jmcdonald2886 on Sept 15, 2016 10:35:37 GMT -5
Hmmmm.
Other than for foes like Nimrod or Bastion they can show emotion, there is literally no need for a face.
I liked Grant Morrison's sentinels during New X-Men, likening them to swarming hives of bug creatures they are nearly unstoppable and unrecognizable, because a) A lot of contemporary robot builders in the real world have looked towards insects for design inspiration and b) Sentinels don't really need any recognizable types of limbs or body structure: they just need to be mobile, and carry the machinery necessary to exterminate mutants.
Whether it be designer virus injectors that unravel x-genes, EMPs that annihilate mutant powers at short range, nanotech disaasemblers that disassociate matter, or conventional weaponry like guns or bombs or something. They just need to kill. Mutants. Dead. And be really efficient about it.
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Post by jmcdonald2886 on Sept 15, 2016 10:36:53 GMT -5
EXCEPT for Omega Sentinels, to blend in with humans pre-transformation.
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Post by Stephen Crosby on Sept 15, 2016 14:41:56 GMT -5
Sorry, this is totally unrelated but...I've always wondered this. Why do Sentinel's have faces? There is literally no requirement for a face at all. Keep in mind when they were originally created, and Boliver Trask's purpose behind this. Mutants are supposed to be the scary, faceless threat. Sentinels are meant to be loyal protectors, meant to instill confidence. The average man on the street is meant to connect to what looks most like him, so when a giant purple robot is blasting at a guy with wings, the face is to help with that connection. Of course, it all went to hell three minutes in when Sentinels went rogue and proclaimed they would exterminate mankind because they breed mutants. But it's the original intent that counts.
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Post by claypot on Sept 18, 2016 10:25:48 GMT -5
Question: Is Uncanny X-Men available? If so, would you like to see a continuation of the recent run or a reboot series?
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Post by D. Golightly on Sept 18, 2016 19:34:31 GMT -5
I'd like to see it wrapped up once I get the issues reposted. Bryan had some fun stories going on there. It would be a shame to waste them. Of course, with an integral book like that the proposal will have to be pretty in depth.
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