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Post by travis on Apr 3, 2018 22:08:36 GMT -5
Creeper is kind of like how Moon Knight is with Marvel... a lot of writers just really have no idea what do with him and that is painfully obvious sometimes. Both are great characters though and ironically both favorites of mine Memo to self: may need to put Dolan onto the "unfortunate accident" list as there is way too much overlap between his writer's wish list and mine...
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Post by DD Doyle on Apr 3, 2018 22:10:02 GMT -5
Geoff johns (who I admit I've taken issue with), George Perez, Alex Ross, among others are also big proponents of using continuity as a strength rather than a burden. I love that. When there's a callback to some minor thing that happened like twenty years ago or a character who hasn't been even mention in forever shows up and plays a major part.
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Post by DD Doyle on Apr 3, 2018 22:12:08 GMT -5
Creeper is kind of like how Moon Knight is with Marvel... a lot of writers just really have no idea what do with him and that is painfully obvious sometimes. Both are great characters though and ironically both favorites of mine Memo to self: may need to put Dolan onto the "unfortunate accident" list as there is way too much overlap between his writer's wish list and mine... Ha! I run into that a lot as well. I'll have a cast of what I think of as obscure, incredibly minor names and I'll find that at least three other writers want use them too lol
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Post by travis on Apr 3, 2018 22:17:14 GMT -5
Geoff johns (who I admit I've taken issue with), George Perez, Alex Ross, among others are also big proponents of using continuity as a strength rather than a burden. I love that. When there's a callback to some minor thing that happened like twenty years ago or a character who hasn't been even mention in forever shows up and plays a major part. Johns used to be really good at it, but suffered a blow to the head or something and has just never recovered. He has become the Oprah of tragic back stories...handing out one to every member of the audience. Al Ewing and Jason Aarons are some of the rare current guys that just want to play with the toys. They aren't auditioning for hollywood, they just want to write comic books. Jeff Parker too, but he doesn't do as much mainstream stuff.
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Post by travis on Apr 3, 2018 22:20:52 GMT -5
Memo to self: may need to put Dolan onto the "unfortunate accident" list as there is way too much overlap between his writer's wish list and mine... Ha! I run into that a lot as well. I'll have a cast of what I think of as obscure, incredibly minor names and I'll find that at least three other writers want use them too lol On one hand it makes me happy that there are other fans of an obscure characters out there, at the same time it'll make you crazy. "Seriously! How did someone beat me to the Living Mummy? Or the Red Bee?" How?
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Post by DD Doyle on Apr 3, 2018 22:22:17 GMT -5
Part of me will never fully forgive Johns for what he did to Wally West. Purists be damned Wally was MY Flash and in service of restoring silver age status quo he shunted him and Kyle to relative oblivion in favor of lazily resurrecting Jordan and Allen
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Post by travis on Apr 3, 2018 22:35:40 GMT -5
Never a huge Kyle fan, but I always felt bad that DC could never figure out what to do with Kyle. They changed him like twenty times and a couple of the ideas were interesting, but then they'd do a GL event based around Hal and Kyle would get clobbered so we knew it was a big deal.
If you don't know what to do with a character, leave them alone! I don't get the appeal of a bunch of characters, which is why you don't see me writing them. I don't go around maiming them.
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Post by JD Mathis on Apr 4, 2018 6:18:36 GMT -5
When the Lanterns where all but destroyed by crazy old Uncle Hal, Kyle was the last one chosen to step up and take on the responsibility of being pretty much the last Green Lantern. That was something with him having to learn the job with out a training officer, or a Corps backing him up. He carried the mantle and shouldered the responsibility to the best of his abilities even losing his girlfriend and in the end it’s like it didn’t even matter. Why? Because oh here comes Hal Jordan back from the dead to take over the top spot again and push Kyle back into the shadows. I like Hal but he’s just way over played. I prefer someone like Guy, John or Kyle over Hal. Heck I’ll take Simon and Jessica over Hal really.
And then there’s Wally. This is the Flash I read in comics. Now I wasn’t a big Flash reader but what I did read, be it in his own series or Justice League had Wally as the Flash. He started out as a sidekick Kid Flash and when he was needed he stepped up and took the mantel of the Flash and made it his own and did a hell of a job doing it. Of course all that hard work, tragedy, etc gets pushed off when the big wigs at DC think “hey let’s bring Barry back and just push Wally to the side.” To me at least Wally was a better Flash than Barry was in the end. I’m just glad they finally brought Wally back.
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Post by DD Doyle on Apr 4, 2018 7:31:12 GMT -5
When the Lanterns where all but destroyed by crazy old Uncle Hal, Kyle was the last one chosen to step up and take on the responsibility of being pretty much the last Green Lantern. That was something with him having to learn the job with out a training officer, or a Corps backing him up. He carried the mantle and shouldered the responsibility to the best of his abilities even losing his girlfriend and in the end it’s like it didn’t even matter. Why? Because oh here comes Hal Jordan back from the dead to take over the top spot again and push Kyle back into the shadows. I like Hal but he’s just way over played. I prefer someone like Guy, John or Kyle over Hal. Heck I’ll take Simon and Jessica over Hal really. And then there’s Wally. This is the Flash I read in comics. Now I wasn’t a big Flash reader but what I did read, be it in his own series or Justice League had Wally as the Flash. He started out as a sidekick Kid Flash and when he was needed he stepped up and took the mantel of the Flash and made it his own and did a hell of a job doing it. Of course all that hard work, tragedy, etc gets pushed off when the big wigs at DC think “hey let’s bring Barry back and just push Wally to the side.” To me at least Wally was a better Flash than Barry was in the end. I’m just glad they finally brought Wally back. Wally was definitely the better Flash and now that Barry's back everyone who writes him (comics, TV show AND Movies) makes him have Wally's personality... which is just an extra kick in the face.
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Post by D. Golightly on Apr 4, 2018 8:33:17 GMT -5
Agreed. It's why I stopped reading Flash years ago, despite the fact that he's my favorite character. Since Barry's return, he's just become Wally West-lite. I'd rather just read old Wally comics instead.
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Post by travis on Apr 4, 2018 10:16:08 GMT -5
I was bugged by some of that stuff, but never felt most emotional trauma because my preferred are Jay Garrick for Flash and John Stewart for GL.
I think the main problem with bringing everybody back, is they don't know what to do with most of them.
Earth has, what, six human Green Lanterns and most of them get nothing to do.
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Post by JD Mathis on Apr 4, 2018 10:43:58 GMT -5
Earth has, what, six human Green Lanterns and most of them get nothing to do. Yeah I believe it is up to six Lanterns at the moment. Hal, John, Kyle, Guy, Simon, and Jessica. Earth is the exception to the rule of a Green Lantern per sector.
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Post by D. Golightly on Apr 4, 2018 11:16:21 GMT -5
And who justifies that? Is Earth really so terrible that it needs six times the protection from the Guardians' perspective? Any organization as old and as powerful as theirs should have some kind of bureaucracy limiting this stuff. Imagine some record keeper going through energy discharge allocations to Earth from the main power battery seeing just how much the six Lanterns are draining away. You know there would be tons of paperwork and an investigation.
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Post by travis on Apr 4, 2018 15:41:49 GMT -5
And who justifies that? Is Earth really so terrible that it needs six times the protection from the Guardians' perspective? Any organization as old and as powerful as theirs should have some kind of bureaucracy limiting this stuff. Imagine some record keeper going through energy discharge allocations to Earth from the main power battery seeing just how much the six Lanterns are draining away. You know there would be tons of paperwork and an investigation. Now i want to see a story about Kevin, head of human resources of Oa, who handles all the paperwork
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Post by travis on Apr 4, 2018 21:27:01 GMT -5
Brimstone was interesting. Not what I was expecting but decent.
Reads almost like a Stephen King story set in the DCU.
Curious to see where this goes and if it can sustain an ongoing.
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